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Αυτό είναι ένα δίδυμο site του Bet Nox Casino που σίγουρα χρησιμοποιεί τις ίδιες πρακτικές με το Bet Nox Casino που κλέβει τους παίκτες του
Απλώς προειδοποιώ όλους τους παίκτες να μην καταθέσουν χρήματα σε αυτούς
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Wolfy Casino - γενική συζήτηση (σελίδα 2)
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And I surely thank you for that. Do you have any experience playing there? Was my question. 🤔
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Δεν έχω παίξει εκεί, αλλά έχετε κάποια επαφή με εκπροσώπους αυτών των καζίνο;
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Hello again.
Do you remember me explaining we can't do that every time someone asks? Admins do not get in touch with casino representatives when players ask us to try that, and we also can't provide the contacts.
Additionally, I would like to ask you to keep your experiences in the threads they belong to. I imagine you think it's handy to warn others about sister sites, but it is not that easy. If you do not have the very same experience with Wolfy, I ask you politely to create your own thread about it, just try to keep this official source of information - well, informative. 😉
In any case, both casinos are actually marked as "low Safety Index", better to be avoided.
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Καταλαβαίνω, αλλά εξηγήστε μου πώς λειτουργεί
Και τα δύο καζίνο έχουν τον ίδιο ιδιοκτήτη, σωστά;
Ο ιδιοκτήτης και των δύο καζίνο γνωρίζει πώς αντιμετωπίζονται οι πελάτες αυτών των καζίνο ή δεν το γνωρίζει καν;
Με ενδιαφέρει πραγματικά αυτό το θέμα, πώς λειτουργεί;
Τα καζίνο παίρνουν άδεια τυχερών παιχνιδιών, σωστά; Δεν έχει πραγματικά το καζίνο συνέπειες για την κλοπή από τους πελάτες του;
Είναι πραγματικά όλοι οι παίκτες που μπορούν να κάνουν για να παραπονεθούν στα διαδικτυακά φόρουμ;
Το καζίνο δεν μου έδωσε καν λόγο γιατί το κάνει αυτό, μου είναι δύσκολο να τα φανταστώ όλα, γι' αυτό ψάχνω την αλήθεια για το πώς λειτουργούν όλα
Κατά τη γνώμη μου, σε ένα καζίνο που κλέβει τους παίκτες του δεν πρέπει να δοθεί παράταση της άδειας για να συνεχίσει να παίζει εκτός και αν αποδείξει ότι έχω παραβιάσει τους κανονισμούς με κάποιο τρόπο, και σίγουρα δεν το έκανα.
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Well, as I can see, they do not have the same owners but the same management. I do not completely understand how it works exactly, as I have never worked in an online casino, to tell you the truth.
They do have the same license, which is Curaçao (ANT), and they are supposed to be controlled by them. Again, I cannot be sure about how exactly does it works there. They have some rules, and all the casinos need to follow them, of course.
Whenever a player files a complaint here on our website and the complaint doesn't get resolved, it will always show in the safety index of the particular casino. This is how we at Casino Guru rate all online casinos. So, without any help from our users, we are not able to punish any casino somehow.
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Και κανείς δεν αντλεί συνέπειες από το καζίνο για άδικη εξαπάτηση του πελάτη του;
Μπορείτε να επικοινωνήσετε με τους ιδιοκτήτες του καζίνο ή με άτομα που εκπροσωπούν το καζίνο;
Αν αφήσουμε τα καζίνο να πάνε έτσι, θα συνεχίσουν να εξαπατούν τους πελάτες τους και θα συνεχίσουν να υποβάλλονται καταγγελίες
Θα ήθελα τουλάχιστον να εξηγήσω την κατάστασή μου, επειδή το καζίνο δεν μου έδωσε καν λόγο για τον οποίο το έκανε αυτό;
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I believe that Radka has already explained to you that it doesn't work that way. We don't contact casinos whenever a player asks us to. If there is a complaint filed and the casino is willing to communicate with our team, only then can we contact the casino representative.
So the only way we can do something about any issues at an online casino is through the player's complaint lodged here with our team.
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Έχω ήδη υποβάλει παράπονα εδώ στο φόρουμ, ο εκπρόσωπος του καζίνο δεν μπήκε καν στον κόπο να απαντήσει σε μηνύματα παρά το γεγονός ότι είχε προσκληθεί πολλές φορές και πολλές φορές απάντησε σε άλλα παράπονα, αλλά αγνόησε τα δικά μου γιατί γνώριζαν πολύ καλά ότι με είχαν ληστέψει και με είχαν απατήσει.
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repeated false speculations
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Hi there and welcome back, player. It is been a long while.
It hurts so much to see that all you have brought back are your misgivings and purposefully unfavorable opinions.
It is not a huge deal because you probably are not aware that we do not hide the fact that we make our money from players who play in casinos and lose fairly. You genuinely act as though you are aware of the specifics, but the majority of what you have written is untrue.
Let's focus o facts:
Players are the ones who feed us. Not the casinos. If we disappoint the players trust by showing wrong data or supporting unfair casinos, it will return to us like a boomerang. On the other hand, it doesn't mean we'll always blindly decide in favour of the player whenever they submit a complaint against a casino.
We created the biggest list of casino reviews in the world, and we regularly update this list to make sure that the Safety Indexes are still valid.
We recommend different top casinos to players based on where they come from, because for example, a casino that is great for German players doesn't need to be too good for players in Argentina, etc. So we try to create a unique top casinos list for every country. When players go to play to these casinos and eventually lose, we get a commission from it.
We never tell the players to play in a casino, because you become rich, we actually say that you eventually lose, but we also know there are people who simply love casino games. We believe that it's better for those players to play in decent casinos that will pay the winnings in case the player is simply lucky instead of making stupid excuses and voiding the winnings. That's why CasinoGuru was created - to provide honest online casino reviews.
The income we have also enables us to do a lot of activities that we don't get paid for - for example, we have the Complaints Resolution Centre where we help players get their winnings from casinos. We don't take any commission for it so when the player gets paid, they get 100% of the amount. We also have an academy for people who'd like to start their career in online casinos and even for online casinos workers who'd like to improve in their job.
We also invest in Global Self Exclusion initiative. The goal is to create a tool that would allow players to self-exclude in all casinos in the world (we could use our large casino database for it).
Based on the multitude of your submitted complaints, I really don't understand why you feel the urge to neglect the help you personally received for free without hesitation.
Moreover, we have never said Curacao licenses are the best - from my point of view, this is another example of how misinformed your words are. To provide players with the most complex set of information, it is only natural to mention something as important as the license. If you have tried a little, you would find many conversations declaring Curacao at some point supports player's complaints by the means you can submit one, though they rarely respond. This is hardly promotion.
Anyway, I am requesting that you refrain from pressuring players to adopt our false ideologies. Your actions destroyed the supportive vibes, as the only things you are able to share on the forum are similar in nature. We do not have a problem with constructive criticism; unfortunately, what you have shown thus far has little to do with it. If we are that corrupt, I imagine you will only be grateful that you are no longer welcome here, at least until you start acting rationally. Surely you will understand that we do not need such activities on our own forum.
I will ban you from the forum if you continue to spread false accusations, so please heed my final warning.
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Έχω ήδη υποβάλει παράπονα εδώ στο φόρουμ, ο εκπρόσωπος του καζίνο δεν μπήκε καν στον κόπο να απαντήσει σε μηνύματα παρά το γεγονός ότι είχε προσκληθεί πολλές φορές και πολλές φορές απάντησε σε άλλα παράπονα, αλλά αγνόησε τα δικά μου γιατί γνώριζαν πολύ καλά ότι με είχαν ληστέψει και με είχαν απατήσει.
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Sorry about that. It happens with some casinos and then the complaint is closed as "unresolved", unfortunately, and we have to give the casino black points for this, which leads to lowering the safety index.
May I ask you when you filed a complaint for this casino, though? I do not see it anywhere in our database.
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Δυστυχώς, έχω αρχίσει να χάνω την πίστη μου στη δικαιοσύνη 😪😪😪
Το καζίνο παίρνει απλώς τα χρήματα, όταν έχασα όλα ήταν καλά στο καζίνο, όταν κέρδισα όταν το καζίνο έκλεψε όλα τα χρήματα
Κανείς δεν θέλει να με βοηθήσει, κανείς δεν θέλει καν να εξηγήσει την όλη κατάσταση
Γιατί συμβαίνει αυτό; Μπορούν πραγματικά τα καζίνο να κάνουν ό,τι θέλουν;
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Κυρία Radka, διάβασα την καταχώρησή σας, αλλά πιστεύετε ότι η μείωση της βαθμολογίας κατά 0,2 μονάδες όταν εξαπατήσει έναν παίκτη των 800 ευρώ αλλάζει κάτι για το καζίνο;
Αναρωτιέμαι επίσης γιατί δεν πιέζετε τους εκπροσώπους του καζίνο να απαντήσουν στην καταγγελία, επειδή έχετε τέτοιες επαφές και ευκαιρίες;
Υπάρχει περίπτωση να επικοινωνήσετε με τη διεύθυνση του καζίνο;
Αναρωτιέμαι αν η διοίκηση ξέρει πώς μοιάζουν όλα αυτά;
Ακόμα δεν μπορώ να φανταστώ ότι το καζίνο μου κλέβει 800 ευρώ και δεν υφίσταται καμία συνέπεια, δεν θέλω καν να κάνω προσπάθεια να απαντήσω στα μηνύματά μου και να δικαιολογήσω την απόφασή μου και ξέρω καλά ότι οι εκπρόσωποι του καζίνο το γνωρίζουν καλά γιατί ήταν και οι δύο καλεσμένοι στη συνέντευξη. εξαιτίας σου και τους έχω γράψει πολλές φορές ότι έχει ανοίξει καταγγελία;
Με την κοινή λογική, ο καθένας μπορεί να μαντέψει ότι αν το καζίνο δεν είναι σε θέση να το κάνει ούτε αυτό, σημαίνει ότι το λάθος είναι καθαρά με το μέρος του, λέτε ότι δεν είναι απολύτως σαφές ποιος φταίει σε αυτό το θέμα
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Let me answer to all your points and I will not answer again:
Players are the ones who feed us. Not the casinos. If we disappoint the players trust by showing wrong data or supporting unfair casinos, it will return to us like a boomerang. On the other hand, it doesn't mean we'll always blindly decide in favour of the player whenever they submit a complaint against a casino.
No , I insist, THE CASINOS FEED YOU, not players. Being a professional insurance broker on civil liabilities , what you are doing and the way you function is the definition of a conflict of interest. Your bank account gets money from the casinos , not the players. You don't get funds through subscriptions , but through comission from player deposits. Maybe a casino gives you 5% and gets 9.0 and another casino gives you 3% and gets 5.0. That is something that maybe is true or maybe it is not. But you see...that's how conflict of interest works. Furthermore your comissions come from player LOSES, which means any Casino favoured decisions = more money for you.
We created the biggest list of casino reviews in the world, and we regularly update this list to make sure that the Safety Indexes are still valid.
We recommend different top casinos to players based on where they come from, because for example, a casino that is great for German players doesn't need to be too good for players in Argentina, etc. So we try to create a unique top casinos list for every country. When players go to play to these casinos and eventually lose, we get a commission from it.
Yes , now that your SEO is good and after you built your reputation , the flow of "customers" will keep comming no matter what you do. You don't even have to care. I am a living example of what happens when a player experiences what you say "you wouldn't want to happen". You refuse to cut casinos ratings for things as simple as players getting promotions daily after self-exclusions. Give me a break.
As for Curacao licenses and you judging based on player Location is such a bullshit. 99,999% of these casinos are completely banned in EU/USA/CANADA and they have 300 mirrors so players play there illegaly , yet you still don't break a sweat.
We never tell the players to play in a casino, because you become rich, we actually say that you eventually lose, but we also know there are people who simply love casino games. We believe that it's better for those players to play in decent casinos that will pay the winnings in case the player is simply lucky instead of making stupid excuses and voiding the winnings. That's why CasinoGuru was created - to provide honest online casino reviews.
In other words you tell people that water is wet. Go check my cases , that I played ONE TIME from parrent's home , during vacations , without using a bonus , while I had 300 logs from a place 3 hours far away and how fair I got my winnings as you claim. And when I said that THE CASINO WHO REFUSED TO PAY ME KEEPS SENDING PROMOTIONS YOU SAID "IS NORMAL".
Moreover, we have never said Curacao licenses are the best - from my point of view, this is another example of how misinformed your words are. To provide players with the most complex set of information, it is only natural to mention something as important as the license. If you have tried a little, you would find many conversations declaring Curacao at some point supports player's complaints by the means you can submit one, though they rarely respond. This is hardly promotion.
You never said they are "the best" , but you hide the fact that they are COMPLETELY UNREGULATED. You even tell people at times to contact the "Curacao Authorities.... xD
If you have tried a little, you would find many conversations declaring Curacao at some point supports player's complaints by the means you can submit one, though they rarely respond. This is hardly promotion.
If that's the case , which is the case all Casinos with Curacao Licenses should have a MAXIMUM rating of 5, since all casinos based there , are based there ONLY TO WORK ON UNREGULATED ENVIROMENT AND BYPASS LOCAL BANS WITH 500 MIRRORS.
We also invest in Global Self Exclusion initiative. The goal is to create a tool that would allow players to self-exclude in all casinos in the world (we could use our large casino database for it).
You invest on Global self exclusion and u care so much about the players , that in my case you couldn't force the casino to stop sending me promotions after self-exclusion and you cated as if it is something normal. You care about players that much , that when you do casino rankings you don't mention the rtp (94%,95%,96%) versions they have on slots.
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Dear kaczka381,
I've been meaning to tell you for quite some time that every time you ask us whether we can help with any sports betting-related matter, the response will always be "No, we can't."
When I was referring to players complaining about specific casino here on the forum and the fact they should not expect Casino Guru to lower any rating based on their posts, it was solely related to casino games.
As you already know, nothing related to sports betting has any meaningful impact on CASINO reviews.
When it comes to the effort, I personally helped you get in touch with the RichPrize Casino Representative, despite the fact that it has never been part of my job. Do you remember, perhaps?
We truly need you to understand we only contact casino representatives through the complaint process, which won't be initiated if your concern include sports betting.
Frankly, due to the aforementioned explanation, we just can't decide to lower the rating as you suggested because we don't deal with sports betting-related matters.
There is no way for us to recognize whether the casino/sportsbook truly did the "things" you say it did.
Despite that, you already said you had never played at Wolfy Casino. Thus, this conversation about us getting in touch with the casino is pointless. Please try to understand the facts here. 🙏
I'm more than convinced we have proven how much we care.
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Ναι, θυμάμαι, για το οποίο ήμουν πολύ ευγνώμων και σας ευχαριστώ και πάλι, αλλά εκεί το θέμα αφορούσε και αθλητικό στοίχημα και κατάφερα να πείσω τον εκπρόσωπο να μου μιλήσει για αυτό
Όσον αφορά το καζίνο Bet Nox και το Slottyway, όπου υπέβαλα καταγγελία, η υπόθεση αφορά και αθλητικά στοιχήματα και το καζίνο της κυρίας Radko, οπότε νομίζω ότι θα ήταν δυνατό να προσπαθήσουμε να πείσουμε τον εκπρόσωπο να μιλήσει εδώ στο φόρουμ
Νομίζω ότι είναι μάλλον ξεκάθαρο ότι το λάθος έγκειται στο καζίνο, δεδομένου ότι επιδιώκω μια αντιπαράθεση για αυτό το θέμα για τόσο καιρό και το καζίνο αποφεύγει τη συζήτηση όπως η πανούκλα, η κατάσταση είναι μάλλον ξεκάθαρη ποιος φταίει σε αυτήν τη διαμάχη, σωστά;
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"No , I insist, THE CASINOS FEED YOU, not players. Being a professional insurance broker on civil liabilities , what you are doing and the way you function is the definition of a conflict of interest. Your bank account gets money from the casinos , not the players. You don't get funds through subscriptions , but through comission from player deposits. Maybe a casino gives you 5% and gets 9.0 and another casino gives you 3% and gets 5.0. That is something that maybe is true or maybe it is not. But you see...that's how conflict of interest works. Furthermore your comissions come from player LOSES, which means any Casino favoured decisions = more money for you."
To be honest, it seems like all you do is misunderstand what I said. Our revenue comes from the players, which you have just terribly explained. The reasoning behind our approach was clarified.
"Yes , now that your SEO is good and after you built your reputation , the flow of "customers" will keep comming no matter what you do. You don't even have to care. I am a living example of what happens when a player experiences what you say "you wouldn't want to happen". You refuse to cut casinos ratings for things as simple as players getting promotions daily after self-exclusions. Give me a break."
Again, you are talking about things you don't understand; you simply assume you know what and how we do.
"You never said they are "the best" , but you hide the fact that they are COMPLETELY UNREGULATED. You even tell people at times to contact the "Curacao Authorities.... xD"
I am sorry to tell, but this is completely out of the question; I suggest you do some decent research. It is important to remember that the Curaçaoan government regulates five sublicense providers. Some of them accept players' complaints:
"As for Curacao licenses and you judging based on player Location is such a bullshit. 99,999% of these casinos are completely banned in EU/USA/CANADA and they have 300 mirrors so players play there illegaly , yet you still don't break a sweat."
I partially agree, but you should keep in mind that we provide information. It's up to the players to decide whether they want to play in a Curacao or Costa Rica licensed casino. Additionally players for hevily regulated countries are given pop up warning they should only playin locally licensed casinos.
Aside from that, if you have read our crystal clear FAIR GAMBLING CODEX, you would know we are not lawyers, so we stick with fairness. Meaning if the curacao licensed casino accepts players from the UK, giving them the same conditions like anyone else, we are ok with it. Such players just can't be disqualified later when he want to withdraw winnings. These days, many players from regulated markets use this "lawfully fair" approach to put casinos under pressure once they lose. Deliberately playing in Curacao casinos with the idea of a refund because, according to local law or license limitations, they should not be allowed to register and play.
Sounds truly fair to me.
"You invest on Global self exclusion and u care so much about the players , that in my case you couldn't force the casino to stop sending me promotions after self-exclusion and you cated as if it is something normal. You care about players that much , that when you do casino rankings you don't mention the rtp (94%,95%,96%) versions they have on slots."
I believe this is a frustrating situation. On the other hand, I have never heard of any independent company that has been able to force casino - another independent company - to stop sending promotions to excluded players. I agree this really serious matter, but we can't change that.
When it comes to the RTP, the casino should provide it. if you have ever read our guides, you would know that playing in a casino that does not show the RTP is risky. We are not casino, hence we just don't hace access to the RTP appliable in each casino.
Nothing else is on my mind. I wish you a good day.
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Ναι, θυμάμαι, για το οποίο ήμουν πολύ ευγνώμων και σας ευχαριστώ και πάλι, αλλά εκεί το θέμα αφορούσε και αθλητικό στοίχημα και κατάφερα να πείσω τον εκπρόσωπο να μου μιλήσει για αυτό
Όσον αφορά το καζίνο Bet Nox και το Slottyway, όπου υπέβαλα καταγγελία, η υπόθεση αφορά και αθλητικά στοιχήματα και το καζίνο της κυρίας Radko, οπότε νομίζω ότι θα ήταν δυνατό να προσπαθήσουμε να πείσουμε τον εκπρόσωπο να μιλήσει εδώ στο φόρουμ
Νομίζω ότι είναι μάλλον ξεκάθαρο ότι το λάθος έγκειται στο καζίνο, δεδομένου ότι επιδιώκω μια αντιπαράθεση για αυτό το θέμα για τόσο καιρό και το καζίνο αποφεύγει τη συζήτηση όπως η πανούκλα, η κατάσταση είναι μάλλον ξεκάθαρη ποιος φταίει σε αυτήν τη διαμάχη, σωστά;
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Yes, and I said it was an extraordinary approach. Meaning, we just can't do that every time someone needs it. Otherwise, we would not do anything else as forum admins. 🙂
Thus, this step is exclusive to the complaint process. The forum does not substitute the compliants in that regard.
Bet Nox related complaint was closed as unresolved due to a lack of casino interest. As you may see, the casino was rewarded by the back points. So, they have been punished. Aside from that, we remind them of every fresh complaint submitted against them.
Now an honest question: take all these conversations we've been having in this thread for the last couple of days. Would you like to directly get in touch with the players here? if the casino ignores the complaint, obviously they don't want to respond at all.
Additionally, as you can see, many casinos don't care very much. As a counterattack, we inspire players to look into previously submitted complaints, reviews, or even this forum every time they plan to play in a casino.
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Υπάρχει περίπτωση να ανοίξει ξανά αυτή η καταγγελία; Ίσως το καζίνο έχει αλλάξει την προσέγγισή του προς τους πελάτες και είναι πρόθυμο να συνεργαστεί;
Είμαι σίγουρος ότι δεν παραβίασα τους κανόνες με κανέναν τρόπο, δεν πήρα ποτέ μπόνους, έχασα κάποια χρήματα μαζί τους πριν, παρ' όλα αυτά, το καζίνο πήρε όλα μου τα κέρδη
Είμαι σοκαρισμένος με το πόσο εύκολα τα καζίνο αφαιρούν τα κέρδη των παικτών τους χωρίς καμία βάση
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