Question about Gambling websites with Curaçao license using incorrect Merchant Category code (σελίδα 436)

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You are right I never bought crypto i also just googled. I wouldn't know what to do with that and how it works so confusing to me but yeah Sorry for poking my nose in thinking I know better when I don't. SMH at least I can admit when I am wrong 🤭

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Trust me, you don't want to learn how to get involved with it! The fees are wild as well so any wins need to be fairly substantial to account for those fees.

On another note about Crypto - a lot of these dodgy casinos are taking profits and holding funds in crypto assets to make them untraceable/ non-recoverable, this includes card/bank payments people are making to them and their dodgy merchants!

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Hey hun ,I am.having a bit of a dispute with these guys turns out that not only they are byte news they are also Eduntage. Both send me basically copy and paste emails both companies ran by people with same surnames .In emails they want ID of me when I refused to send ID .All i sent was card numbers with obscured parts and bank statments with transactions from Cc and bank with all personal information obscured also as soon as I sent this they said they can't find these transactions even though they are clearly visible on statments i even sent literally merchant details authorisation codes everything provided by bank but yet they can't find it they need my ID .give me a break I am not an idiot I know how refunds work I have processed a few in my time .once they have the ID then they can fabricate invoices for purchases .I made it also know how can I purchase anything from non existent websites ? And under data protection laws and rights i do not have to provide any ID unless they suspect me of committing fraud which is comical considering they are the ones under scrutiny for ilegal transactions .They are digging there heels in they need my ID .I Cc in my bank and CC company also but as you said when they respond to me they do not Cc in banks

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Exactly what happened with me, I sent the passport but also made it very clear of fabrication of receipts and then CC'd in a few authorities, more importantly GDPR ISO whatever it is! They will come back and say they still have no transactions! They are dodgy as fuck. But seeing as I've had refunds come back after arguing with them and all the smaller denominations it's fishy.

Question: If a company has only refunded part of the transactions does this make them liable and will the bank then chargeback the remainder, does anyone know?

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Yep !!!diminishing all responsibility basically saying mastercard and Visa have things in place to deal with this and they don't share information with 3rd parties .They can do 1 .I am not a 3rd party I am card holder .I have requested a sars the company is also registered in UK by the way .

Said they don't do refunds .I have responded and said I do not mess about either if money is not returned .Then I will be reporting to all the necessary authorities

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The Crypto is a massive hassle it can take a while to land in your account and it is a big fee to buy it then a big fee to withdraw it to your bank the only good thing is its quick when you win to get it to your bank I blocked myself from all of them they are good at helping that way and will not go back on their word

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Do you think we’ll get money back from them?

i mentioned to them they have a phone number that doesn’t even work on their website and a live chat which is also inactive. Very suspicious

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Hi Paul,

I remember you saying when speaking to wise you forwarded them a dispute similar to the ones you ahd with wise which made them change their mind.

was this dispute you won with a different bank or wise itself?

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Hi bud.

It was a different bank my main one I used the example of the refund from I just really opened wise to use it for gambling/moving money because I found out I could take money from my credit cards and move it to there it was a big fee but I did it and it also had the instant virtual card like Revolut, to be honest if used correctly it is a good account to have withdrawal is instant etc but I was moving thousands from credit cards to it for gambling

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All good with me DT100.

Lost a bit track in here due to a lot of new, weird people who aren't trying to help or don't play by the book. Like the one who said he was the wife, but on the mails its stated "Dear Isamel"..

Last few Disputes for me have estimated final report 09.02, so hopefully done on Sunday! Hope yours Disputes is going well aswell.

Just in here reading, and hopping in trying to help in my spare time.

Have a nice weekend everyone!

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All good with me DT100.

Lost a bit track in here due to a lot of new, weird people who aren't trying to help or don't play by the book. Like the one who said he was the wife, but on the mails its stated "Dear Isamel"..

Last few Disputes for me have estimated final report 09.02, so hopefully done on Sunday! Hope yours Disputes is going well aswell.

Just in here reading, and hopping in trying to help in my spare time.

Have a nice weekend everyone!

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You too buddy! I'm still hunting down BYTLAB. Am now getting the bank to do digging, they seem to be no help at the moment. I have narrowed it down to the website cryptowaveco.com which is 10000009% Bytebloom Labs LTD, frustrating when they deny any acknowledgement!

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Thanks for the reply Paul. Monzo , Mastercard debit card transactions have been a complete nightmare to deal with.

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Pulsion processed transactions for Usoft Gaming who I did have dealings with some time ago around credit card transactions - they absolutely rejected every dispute and provided a crazy amount of detail as backup to the CC Company. Pulsion won't reply, but the casinos you used might.

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I had a Monzo account years ago they did them no probs 1st time then 2nd time they did them then closed the account but I got it all back

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Have you disputed BYTLAB?

You sure it isn't this one: https://bytlab.in/

That one is actually cyprus based. When looking at their page it says they have office in USA, but they have not.

I would send them mail, specify that you have transaction you don't know to them, and check for any answers.

If the mail address is fake, then I would dispute as: goods not recieved. Due to that they will not answer on the dispute, and you will win after 45 days.

How did it go with grombooks or what they are called 🙂?

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You sure it's not bytlab based in India (with fake location in USA)?

How has it gone with grombooks or what they were called 🙂 ?

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No it's definitely byteblooms /EDUNTAGE both companies ran by same people But they are using bytelabs tech in email response both emails are carbon copies of each other .

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I cc in bank and requested Sars Disclosure and also cc in Ico and requested that any correspondence to me that they must also cc in these entities into their response to me .

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I’m thinking of maybe doing the same if wise don’t fulfill the chargeback request as I had many refunds from another bank for the same issue.

wise are very slow to reply I can’t believe I submitted the dispute on 31st January and they still keep asking for more info… and still in review. So bad they don’t have anyone from the disputes team you can contact VIA phone.

from my experience it’s way easier to get your chargebacks raised by speaking to the disputes team rather than submitting a form.

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Ok yes they are slow it will take a while.

100% send the similar refund example.

I found once you back them in to a corner they have to do them.

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Ust a question when a payment provider refuse to give out any information what can I do ? Because I know katarun is behind fluenfs but they are saying they don’t need to give any information.

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